Slip Under The Covers with us as we discuss JJ Spaun winning the Valero Texas Open
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Dominic Colangelo: So back to your regularly scheduled programming. Pal 4, Uh, yeah, editor Dominic here. So Kevin wanted me to jump on and just clear the air on some numbers that went missing here. 50 to 54 is a four degree difference. And then 54 to 60 is a six degree difference. But he really wanted me to let y'all know that he knew he messed up. And I didn't wanna just put text here. So yeah, ignore what he just said. Doesn't matter to the degree difference. But very cool clubs. Hello and welcome back to Under the Covers, a golf podcast where we deep dive each week in the latest PGA Tour winners bag. We are your hosts. My name is Dominic and I have Kevin with me today.
Kevin Spisak: Thank you, Dominic. Happy to get into the Valero Texas Open. I got my TPC San Antonio hat on here right now from when I went to go watch the tournament a couple years ago. Great course, great venue, cool resort by Marriott down there.
Dominic Colangelo: Was it 2024? Like two years ago?
Kevin Spisak: That would have been Who good question is either 23 or 24?
Dominic Colangelo: I'm curious because the last two winners were lefties. So you would have been there to see Akshay or I think it was Akshay in 24 and then Brian Harmon last year.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, we were just there to watch our family connection on the tour, so we didn't stay for the winter. We followed four rounds with him and then left.
Dominic Colangelo: Nice, still very cool though, love it.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, yeah, lots of fun. It's a really cool course. It's deceptively like really rocky. You know, like everything in the woods is just pure rocks. And I remember seeing like, we can get into it later, but JJ Spahn had like a wedge today that he was baffled by the shot because there's a rock right underneath his ball.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm JJ Spahn is our winner of the 2026 Valero Texas Open at TP San Antonio. This is his third career win. which funny enough, his first win was at the Valero Texas Open. So he currently has two there and then the other one at Oakmont. But his opening round, 69, 69. 66 and then a very impressive 67 to close off and kind of outlast Bobby McIntyre with a finishing score 17 under, which is, was a wild finish. I don't know if Bobby lost it or if JJ won it. I think it's safe to say JJ won it, but Bobby really missed a lot of opportunities there coming down the stretch
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Dominic Colangelo: JJ, like I said, outlasted him, finished it with a 67, which is the lowest round of the day. Him, Sewoo Kim, Hui, they all had a 67, which is the best, and very hard on those conditions, especially after finishing that third round from Saturday. Just a weird weekend for San Antonio. There's so much wind, rain, too many delays, I feel like. Every time I looked at the TV, it seemed like we just on another one.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, weather delay in the first three rounds and then rain like all day Sunday. It is colder in San Antonio than it was up here in St. Louis. ⁓ But yeah, I think your description was pretty accurate of like who did JJ win it or did someone else lose it? And it's like both because JJ shot five under and had the low round of the day. So he certainly went out and won it. But, you know, other guys were right there. and then just a little bit close, you know, one more shot here or there and they would have won.
Dominic Colangelo: I was ⁓ kind of giggling Matt Wallace, he had a great round and then ended up being ⁓ right up there for second. I think he actually held the lead there for a bit, but ⁓ I was telling Bree it would really suck to have such a good round. And then you just have to wait for two hours to see if you win. When I think everyone still had their back nine left.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Yeah, that would be, that would be brutal, very stressful. And you're trying to like stay loose if you go to a playoff and you never know what's going to happen. It's sometimes think that the guys, when they finish, if they know that they don't have a chance, they just start like packing up and moving on to their next thing. And, know, if you're going to the masters, like you're really trying to prepare and get ready for practice rounds. And so you want to get on the road as fast as possible. And, you know, if there's a chance that you're going to win, you just got to sit around and wait. and stay loose and keep the mental focus where it needs to be rather than thinking of what's next.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, and he was already there all day and then he had to wait. And then eventually, you know, I wonder if JJ Spahn getting ahead of him. I wonder if he just dipped right there. He's like, I don't need to be here anymore. I can leave. ⁓ So then, but what was interesting with JJ's, I feel like every time I saw him on the broadcast, he had just a weird spot to get out of. Either he was missing a big putt on the green or.
Kevin Spisak: Heh.
Dominic Colangelo: hitting on a ⁓ slanted hill where it's basically a baseball swing, or like you said, he's hitting out of the rocks in the woods.
Kevin Spisak: Right, it's like under a branch on top of a rock.
Dominic Colangelo: But it's scrambling, I need to see his scrambling stats, because he seemed to just make it work. But then like we said, he definitely won, he earned his spot up there, because through the last, what, five holes, he was four under, with that sick eagle on 17 when he drove the green. he was replicating, they were showing replays of his drive at Oakmont too, that kind of put him ahead. Once again, he wasn't the last group out. He just kind of came back for the lead, had a sweet drive to drive a par four and then drain the putt to get him over the head. So just two incredible finishes for him. And he's really not had a great year so far. know, he's, I think he's only made four cuts. This one being one of them. There's not the best start that you want, but he definitely finished today. It was pretty sweet to watch.
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he had a great season last year, obviously, with winning the US Open. But you asked about his scrambling stats, and he was 26 in the field in scrambling. He finished 16 out of 22 for 72 % scrambling. So nothing to sneeze at, but not top of the field.
Dominic Colangelo: Okay, well, JJ is a very interesting man. and you'll see that his club manufacturing choices are also very interesting. So those head covers are dying to get slipped under. So let's slip under the covers. Let's slip under the covers. What has he got?
Kevin Spisak: Yes. So driver we've seen a couple times ⁓ so this year He's got titles GT3. I'd be to see if he moves to the GTS soon, but currently in the GT3 Ventus Black Velocore Plus 6X. ⁓ The shaft I got in my 5 wood right now. ⁓ Pretty cool shaft. The Ventus Black is all over the PGA Tour. think Fujikura posted last year that they captured all four majors. ⁓ They were all, sorry, all four majors and ⁓ they were all using either the blue or the black with the black being the most common for sure for people with PGA Tour swing speed. ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: Very good.
Kevin Spisak: Pretty cool there. His woods, he's got a three wood and a seven wood. So the QI-10, it's a couple years old now, tailor-made. And Mitsubishi Diamana PD-70TX in the three wood and ADTX in the seven wood, which we've looked at a couple weeks ago and discussed. The PD was Diamana's fifth generation shaft, their lowest launching, lowest spinning shaft of that generation. So, you know. pretty again common with the PJ Tour guys and right in line with him using the Ventus Black on his driver. A little bit curious that he doesn't use the Diamana in the driver or vice versa, he used the Ventus Black ⁓ in his woods, but there's something he likes about them. ⁓ I think they're a little bit higher torque than ⁓ some of the other low launch, low spinning shafts. So ⁓ that would, you know, help. He's not like the fastest swinging guy on tour, but he still wants the low launch, spin. So maybe that torque on his woods just works for him.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm.
Kevin Spisak: So then moving on to his irons, ⁓ cool setup here that we've also again previously discussed. Strixxon is making a big move in being really quality clubs that, you know, they just kind of fly into the radar a little bit, but basically like they've been winning on tour and everyone you know who has them like absolutely loves them. So he's got the ZXI-5 four iron and the ZXI-7 five through pitching wedge. So. players cavity back in the shorter irons and then a little more forgiveness in the four iron. you know, rewinding a little bit, the seven wood has replaced a lot of, you know, utility irons or hybrids in people's bags, get some higher launch and more stopping power. So he goes straight from that seven wood into his four iron. ⁓ And then he's got a dynamic gold X 100 shafts again, very popular shaft when we've talked about a lot ⁓ and one that's been around the tour for quite a while. ⁓ Again, consistent with the shafts he's got in his woods. So pretty steady so far in his set makeup ⁓ compared to what we would expect. We've had some goofy what's under the covers ⁓ in ⁓ some weeks, JJ seems to make sense so far. ⁓ On his wedges, he's got Cleveland RTX Zipcore. He's got the Tour Rack on his 54 and his 60. Here's a little bit, you know, a little bit different of a loft makeup than we see sometimes, but it's not that crazy. So he's got 50, 54 and 60, so six degrees in between each. You sometimes we've seen 50, 54, 58. or 52, 56, 60, usually that four degree gap in between. So he's got six degrees. ⁓ I think he would like ⁓ being able to use his 60 around the greens and ⁓ in bunkers and stuff, get a little more distance out of his ⁓ sandwich. maybe he likes to flight his sandwich down a little bit less than some other guys. My personal make up, I've got 58, 54, 58. ⁓ And yeah, think Matt does too, but his are bent all wonky.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, I was curious too, because most of us will have a 60, not use it well. But then these pros, always typically have a 60 or 58, kind of close there. But I'm curious to know how many actually use their highest lofted club for a 3 quarter swing or whatever. Or are most people manipulating that 54, 56 wedge to whatever they want? Because there's
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: I feel there's so much, it's easier to control and it probably has to do with the bounce,
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I think it would really just depend on where that shot is and where the pin is. They all have a ball flight in mind for how much roll out or how much spin they want. And I think flighting a 60 would be a little bit more challenging, but they're PJ Truro pros and these guys are real good.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, and he's really interesting too because he's almost like a little Frankenstein of the previous winners. I think he kind of takes one thing from every other winner. You know, I mean, it's pretty common to have the QI10 woods, but we've seen somebody with the ZXI5 four iron and then the I7 cavity backs. We've seen plenty of people with the Zipcore and the True Temper S400 wedge shafts. We have everyone with the step down six, seven, 80 gram woods. It's really cool to see that he really doesn't have a single manufacturer. He uses them all perfectly and he's kind of just, I don't think he's doing our purpose, but it's just funny how it worked out that he kind of has a piece of everybody else's bag.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, the only thing wrong with him is that he's not playing any ping or mizuno.
Dominic Colangelo: That's true. Well, he has a first for under the covers in the PGA tour, a putter that is from a certain manufacturer.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ yeah, he's got a Lab Golf DF3. He's got a pretty sick shaft in it, so he's got the TPT graphite shaft. So the DF3 being a pretty large head mallet style, low torque, as in the manufacturer's name, angle balanced ⁓ putter. Yeah, that's been, it's actually like all over tour. It hasn't been featured on any of our under the covers yet so far this year. But when you go and like watch on TV or if you go and watch in person, lots of people on tour are using lab putters. They have ⁓ really made their way into the tour bags. ⁓ They can't quite, you know, beat the spider yet so far in 2026, but JJ is making way for them. And then His ball, he's got the Strixon Z-Star Diamond. So that's their low spin ⁓ tour style ball. So he's Strixon most of the way with ⁓ Strixon being a part of Dunlop Sports, which owns Cleveland. So he's got Strixon ⁓ ball, Cleveland wedges and Strixon irons, but then everything else is ⁓ mixed and matched. So I'd be curious to know what his deal is with Strixon. why they don't want him to hurt, not necessarily don't want him to, but why they don't force him to use, say, the woods or driver, ⁓ like some of their other tour players.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, all of that's so interesting. Like, it's gotta be in his contract. Maybe he just loves the Titleist and stuff, or maybe Strixxon is just so confident because 60 % of his bag is still Strixxon Dunlop sports. Not really sure there, but going back to the Lab real quick, what would you call that shape that he uses? I feel like that was the more popular shape whenever Lab came out. Is that like an anvil? Like, what is that supposed to be?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. the DF3 is newer line. They came out with the original DF, which was absolutely massive. Looks like an ⁓ anvil, like you DF2 is a little more shapely, and then the DF3 is smaller, but it's still huge. It's got the hole in the back, helps with alignment, ⁓ helps with some weight positioning. ⁓ The ⁓ shaft goes through where the center of gravity is in the putter head. And that's how you get that low torque design. And so there's a difference between lie angle balanced and zero torque. So if you were to hold the putter out, you're trying to see if it's face balanced or if it's got toe hang. If you hold it straight up and down and then bend it out to the lie angle that it would be on the ground. A lie angle balance putter won't open or close. So it doesn't have a preference when you're actually in the shaft axis. Where zero torque is that the shaft is going directly into the center of gravity and there's like no rotation at all on the whole, the stroke is like what you would say. So. Lying angle balance you could have you could have toe hang when the shaft is horizontal. But then when you put the putter straight up and down and then take it to its actual lie angle, you would see that there's no preference to open if that makes sense. I feel like that might. That might be like kind of rambling, you know, just based on like my own new visualization. ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: think it does, I'm trying to do with my hand. No, love hearing the specs and all of the ⁓ explanation and the scientific explanation. Give me like a basic, explain it to me like I'm five. Because I know that little tool that the owner uses on YouTube where it, you he lifts it up and it kind of twists. But explain it to me, you know, because I used this joke last time when you weren't here. I totally know what you're talking about. But let's explain it for other people who don't.
Kevin Spisak: Yep. Ha Yeah, so zero torque. If I'm explaining to you like you're five, they're the same thing, but zero torque. The shaft is going straight into the CG and it doesn't matter what configuration the CG is right on the shaft and it will spin however you want it to. However you manipulate it, there's no preference because the CG is right in the middle. ⁓ Yes.
Dominic Colangelo: CG being center of gravity.
Kevin Spisak: Lying all balanced. ⁓ It is all about that the face is square when the putter is at its lie angle. Does that make sense? So if you have a toe hang. Yeah, if you have a toe hang putter and you put it at lie angle, the face opens it naturally opens. And so that kind of starts off like.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, so back to where it started.
Kevin Spisak: you're feeling some torque in your hands. So some people could say there's a difference between like the feeling of zero torque versus consistent torque. I really, I talk about my PLD putter all the time. I like the feeling of the consistent torque because it gives me some more like awareness of where the face is in my hands. Where zero torque, any small little manipulation of your hands, the face exactly does that. There's no did no preference. It's just what your hands do, the putter does.
Dominic Colangelo: That's insane. Is there any similarities with Kelly and Co.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, Kelly and Co is is low torque. They have ⁓ low slash zero torque configurations and then ⁓ they have ⁓ movable weights. in the Kelly and Co putters you can modify your toe hang so that it fits your stroke, but keep a low torque design so that the putter doesn't have quite as much preference ⁓ of. What what it wants to do in your swing? ⁓ but you can configure it to actually match your stroke. kind of like a blend, ⁓ a of both. ⁓ Kenny on our episode a little bit ago talking about how he switched out his low torque neck into the center shafted plumber's neck to be face balanced. then it does have a preference, but in the face balance configuration, the CG is now trailing where the shaft axis is. So the shaft axis is like, dragging the CG along. Rather than, if you think of Phil Mickelson's flow neck putter, that shaft is going nowhere, the shaft axis is nowhere near the CG. So when you're pulling that club head through impact, you're almost like dragging the heel side of the putter in and you've got to use some torque in your hands to keep. ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm.
Kevin Spisak: the putter actually closing to get the face to be square at impact, if that makes sense.
Dominic Colangelo: It does, yes. That's gnarly. I am so excited to try that out and get fitted and kind of see where my, because I have no gauge on where my putter stroke is at, and I hope I go pretty well, but you're always worse than you think, I feel like.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so another interesting putter right now, Ping, just released a new line of onset putters. So they're not zero torque. They'd be somewhat low torque. But their premise is that the CG is directly behind the shaft axis, so that it's almost that the shaft is dragging the CG behind it. ⁓ And I think that's pretty cool. I would like to give one a try here.
Dominic Colangelo: Interesting. Yeah, I keep thinking of, video was it? Tiger was talking about ⁓ putters these days and how they're a lot lighter and they kind of rely on some of the technology to kind of get that force on it. And then he was using his putter, which is older and heavier. And he was essentially saying he lets gravity kind of do the work for the power, but he just keeps his hands still.
Kevin Spisak: So do us. Mm-hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: So I'm curious how that works where it's offsetted like that. Which one does that play into? Is it lighter and it helps, or is it kind of using some of that gravity to push through?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, and putting is also like personal preference and what suits the specific player, know, so much of putting is mental and confidence and you also got to be able to read greens and you know, know what your putter is going to do in terms of like power. ⁓ You know, some counterbalance putters can be harder to get like longer putts down. You know, or like you use the broomstick putter for a while and That can be harder to figure out on longer lengths, but once you get it, if you're confident in it, you're set.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ for sure. And yeah, I feel like I can say confidently that I'm pretty solid at reading greens. And I just want to shout out Wee Golf for honing in my skills. Whenever you can use that little grid selection and actually read the, it's not real topography, but it kind of uses shading. And I swear that helps whenever you zoom in and read. We just hammered Wee Golf and we got way too good at it. But.
Kevin Spisak: hehe
Dominic Colangelo: I honestly think that that helped me with my putting game. ⁓ But, good little segue here. The TBC San Antonio course, those greens seemed like they were impossible to read because they seemed like they were so difficult for these guys.
Kevin Spisak: Right, and you've got one hole with a bunker right in the middle of it.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, which is just unreal and that was actually what Matt he will get into it a little bit later but he gave us some talking points to use since he's not here but he was saying that the the greens at TBC San Antonio are some of the scariest greens on tour and that just kind of goes to how hard they are and how hard it is to stop the ball and I think that kind of goes with you know it's it's kind of hill country It's not that hilly of a course, I feel like. It's more just the edges are really slanted down. There's a lot of that rock, ⁓ I forgot the term for it, but it's really rocky on the edges and they really keep that rough thin, you know?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Totally. Yeah, if you miss the fairway by a little bit, you can get in some real danger on this course. And then that makes your second shot just so much more important. When we were there a few years ago, I feel like there was some good scoring opportunities if you were dead accurate with your tee ball. ⁓ But, you know, this weekend kind of showed how much like the weather can really affect that. You know, I guess when, you know, the greens were like softer and wet, you know, guys could get, you know, a little closer to the hole and maybe scoring was a little lower, you know, because of that.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I actually, I was curious because I asked Matt, what's going through your mind whenever it's raining? Like, are you changing your game at all? Or what's going on there? And his biggest thing is just keep your grips dry. That's all that really matters to him. And he even mentioned that sometimes it's, when it's raining out, you almost don't even think about your golf game. So your head space is a little more clear, so there's way less swing thoughts. So you're really just, your biggest thought is keep it dry.
Kevin Spisak: Okay. Ha ha.
Dominic Colangelo: That's why they're always under that umbrella. It's really not for them, it's for their grips and their hands. And then I kind of equate that take to playing hungover. And I wonder if that's why John Daly is so dang good because he was always drinking until 2 a.m. that night before. And like I've played some of my best golf being like violently hungover.
Kevin Spisak: John Daly doesn't get hungover, he said that. He said he only drinks plain liquor with no mixers or anything because he says the sugar gets him hungover. He said he hasn't had a hangover in like 40 years.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, he's lying. which is. I believe that slightly. When you're an alcoholic, you just never stop drinking. So you're never hung over. But like my dad, my dad used to always say that where we're drinking and very late into the night. And then, you know, he wakes up before us cause he's just blue collar boy. And then he's like, real men don't get hung over. It's like, no, you are just way more in tuned and better at dealing with it. Okay. Leave me alone. Let me go to sleep.
Kevin Spisak: All right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, John Daly also said you can't pull fat, so clearly he's a man of science.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, absolutely. So another little tidbit about TPC San Antonio ⁓ is I don't know if specifically this year or if it's total on tour, but it has the lowest green regulation percentage. And can definitely fact check me on that. I did like a quick little search. I didn't do too much research on it, so I'm curious if you can find something better, but.
Kevin Spisak: Interesting.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ And then my next question on that is how much does that weather affect it? It seemed like people, nobody was above par, nobody was shooting horrible, horrible. There's still some people that are doing, having low scores, but I wonder how much weather and delays and crazy weather kind of factors in some of that difficulty on holes.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, it certainly would, you know, if there's a lot of wind, ⁓ you know, or like on longer clubs, so like when some water gets in between the ball and the face of the club, like Sometimes you don't know where the ball's gonna go. But you mentioned greens in regulation, and I still have JJ's stats up. So he was fifth in the field at 50 out of 72 greens in regulation, so that was 69%. And that does seem quite low for how low of a score he had.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. I think he was just on fire with ⁓ His short game and chipping and stuff. I don't really I didn't follow it that closely to know where his good scores came in
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. That's interesting, yeah, because he, you know, 16 out of 22 scrambling, he was four out of seven in sand saves. He missed 22 greens in regulation, that's why, yeah, his driving accuracy, he was 30 for 56, so that's 53%. So, it's like these were all pretty high numbers in the field, you know, hence why he won, but like compared to... what you expect or what you maybe like see on TV. He was missing lots of fairways and greens.
Dominic Colangelo: I think it just speaks to how well he can play out of the rough and kind of get to the spot he needs to get. And then I would probably say too that his putting, I don't know if it's since he got a lab, but I know that his putting has really won him some tournaments. I mean, he had that super long one for the US Open and then ⁓ unfortunately he lost in a playoff with Rory at the last year's Arnold, but like his putting has always been really good.
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm going to paraphrase, but like his comments last year was like I switched to a lab and then I won the US Open. So he really credits the lab for helping him. ⁓ The shaft he has, to kind of obsess about his putter a little bit, the shaft he has is really cool, the TPT. They came out with a new line of putter shafts this year that
Dominic Colangelo: That's awesome.
Kevin Spisak: They're all graphite and they're extremely low torque. So that torque being that twisting effect when you make impact. But they have different like stiffnesses. So the softer the stiffness, ⁓ the softer the feel in your hands. So they've got three different ones. So you can have like extremely low torque. So you're getting the desired effect from the graphite.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm.
Kevin Spisak: but you can really fine tune how soft you want that putter to feel. ⁓ And with Lab, they also have their stainless steel insert. So JJ uses the DF3, but he could use the DF3i, which is the insert one. And that would give a more firm feel, but then you could custom tune that with the shaft. You can get really, really particular with it, and I think it's pretty cool.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, and I think it also depends on what you do with it too, because I've heard so many differing stories of lab changed my life. I am so much better. I don't have to worry about putting anymore. Like I just have to worry about getting to the green. And then I've also heard I paid $400 for a putter and I still stink.
Kevin Spisak: of those. Yeah, yep, yep, 100%. I'm not totally sold on the zero torque yet, as I've said. I played with the Link, the Link 1, which was their blade style, and I really did not like it. was like, it mishits. I think because of that low torque effect, and your hands, there's no manipulation there. I felt like mishits were dreadful with the link, ⁓ but the DF is like a higher MOI putter or like the Mez or the Oz. They're like higher MOI putters. So that could have just been me with the link.
Dominic Colangelo: Interesting. maybe it just wasn't set up for your kind of putter stroke. I don't know.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, maybe The link like 1.0 is the one that I tested out before and played with and then lab has just recently come out with their link 2.0 and I think 2.1 or maybe that's 2.1 or 2.2, but it's basically the. new heel shafted, lying angle balanced putters and they've got a standard blade and a wide blade. ⁓ I would be extremely interested to try the wide blade in their new heel shafted configuration and see if I like that better. ⁓ so far, in my experience, the only low torque design putter that I've liked is the Kellyanne Co.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, that thing, it looks sweet too. I've, you know, in your basement hitting a couple lefty putts has been very fun. So hopefully I can get some hands, my hands on my own. I do want to shout super fan of Under the Covers, Tony. he actually was about to join TPC Antonio before he so we played the course a couple of times. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: was very close to actually pulling the trigger. But I reached out, And he has some pretty fun insights. So hole nine, elevated super cool idea, but for amateurs like us, if you miss that green, it's rolling everywhere and you're at least a double. ⁓ You have to get it in the right spot. So it's but it's not fun. ⁓ It's a cool idea, but really hard for normies like us. And then the course itself, very long, and it definitely feels like it. Tony is not a fan of the bunker on 16. saying, ⁓ he said, I never, ⁓
Kevin Spisak: ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: thought it made the hole that hard, probably because it's dead center of the green and he's not hitting that very often anyway. But I'm curious your thoughts on that bunker in the middle of the green.
Kevin Spisak: I think it's cool. ⁓ I like things that are different. Sometimes we get so many cookie cutter type of holes. I love at TBC Deer Run where the John Deere Classic is, there's the one hole where there's just a massive tree in the middle of the fairway. I love those holes. Sometimes you see two trees that you've got to almost kick a field goal in between. ⁓ I think those are fun. If it happens too often, it's too like quirky and then you've got like one of those weird like TGL type of courses. ⁓ But I think that's just fun. You know, the people on tour are so much more accurate than we are with their proximity to the hole. So I don't think that bunker like is as effective for them as it would be for like if me and you went to go play, you know, we'd probably like end up in that bunker.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kevin Spisak: and then get out and then two or three butt from there. So that would be really difficult for us. ⁓ But I think for the tour guys, it's not that crazy.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, it definitely sets up for some very fun kind of pin placements for the tour. And I think what he's giving us, I think it's more of a amateur ⁓ recap and kind of thought process because he also mentions that hole three is beautiful. ⁓ And it's actually a really cool spot as a spectator because the hole seven and two are conjoined greens. And then you also get to see three tee box as well if you kind of position yourself in the right spot.
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm. ⁓ That whole course is so cool with the hotel, the Marriott there. I got to do a little sampling of some Garrison Brothers whiskey out back when we were just hanging out. It's beautiful, the lobby and cutting through and making your way over to the course. It's very, very nice.
Dominic Colangelo: massive in the background. Mm-hmm. I also want to shout out the announcers. They're pretty funny. I think it was maybe the second round on Friday, but there was a couple, they kind of just react like we would when we're watching. Like somebody shanks a shot or pulls it, whatever. There's like, ⁓ my gosh, what was that? Or are you kidding me? And it was just so funny to listen to. And then Ludwig, he holds out for Eagle and I think it was hole six. And he just hits like a shrug in the fairway and just like smiles.
Kevin Spisak: What?
Dominic Colangelo: Cause that's just kind of how he reacts to everything is just a big smile. So then one announcer goes, I don't think Ludwig has had a bad day in his life. What do you think? And the other guy kind of pauses. goes, yeah, Sunday at the players championship. ⁓ She's like, damn ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I heard them with a pretty good comment on, I'm going to mess up how you pronounce his name, Ryo Hisatsune, right? Is that how you say it? He had a bunker shot that he was like clearly using a slope. So he's going to like spin it and have it go back on the slope, it as a backstop. And the announcer right off the face was like, whoa, flew that too long. just totally just sold them out right off the face. But then it was like clearly intentional.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. It's pretty close. Yeah, I think that's right about it. It's very fun with the game growing as it is. I think there's some aspects where you wanna shrink the game, but then the cool fun parts are, one, the apparel, shouting out our Azalea Polos we got on, but then, how relaxed and how much more fun these announcers are having before it's, and Ludwig lines up for the putt. and he just misses it right. That's going to be a tough one to come back from. You know, like it's and now it's very much it's way more fun now. Like everyone's looser. The previous players who are friends with their guys, it's just so much better.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, that was amazing. I think when they still do the on-course announcers, sometimes Smiley walks with them, he still has to try to be a little bit quiet. But the guys up in the booth don't care anymore.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's also a cool thing is they're not right there on the course too. They're in their own little booth so can talk as loud as they want. I was watching a commercial today ⁓ and it went through and I was like, what is commercial for? And then it was a paint commercial and I was like, ⁓ Valspar, it's a paint company, okay. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ha Yeah, I wanted to shout out the Valspar trophy that I think it's like one of the coolest trophies on tour because some of the brand trophies are super cheesy, but I thought the Valspar one was really cool. But when we were doing our Valspar review, we just kind of like blew past it and it wasn't worth interjecting it at the moment of the show that we are in. But I thought that that trophy is sick.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ it's a paintbrush.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, it's like a paintbrush with like paint flowing off of it. It's like so cooler than some of the other like sponsor made trophies.
Dominic Colangelo: That's sick! ⁓ man, yeah, we'll throw up a picture. That is cool. I can't believe we never talked about that. Yeah, and we'll get into that a little bit more on the Valero Texas Open. We got a pretty fun show for you. It's a little bit different, but still a lot more of the same stuff we got going on. So we're gonna do an under the covers with our winner, JJ, that Kevin mentioned. Then we're gonna do a little bit more of a recap of the Valero Open, ⁓ you know, talk about the delays, ⁓ those tough greens, things like Kind of go into a little bit of what's happening in the golf world right now. ⁓ And instead of a Masters we actually have a separate Masters episode coming out around the same time. Right now it's Sunday night after the tournament finished. So we're gonna get this edited, maybe post it on Monday. And then Monday evening or sometime during the day, we're gonna get a fun little phone call. Matt is currently not with us, but he is in Augusta, Georgia, getting ready to go tour the course for the Monday practice rounds. And then he's gonna give us a call from the pay phones potentially, maybe do a hotel situation at the end. We're not really sure, but we're gonna have a really fun time with it. We already recorded a lot of the preview and it's very fun to go through. did a draft scenario. We kind of went through a few topics and chose our own. But yeah, so make sure to check that out after this one is posted. And then just like normal, we're going to go into a little bit of trivia and then kind of recap our one and done's for the week. So that's the Valero text is open. I think it's time to get into a little bit of what's happening in the golf world right now. We let Matt kind of let loose and just shoot a bunch of text at us. So I'm gonna kind of go through these quick rapid talking points that he wanted to kind of share with us on the pod. So his first text Ludwig is going to win the Masters, but so is Jordan. Jordan's feet that is. He has... snip snap snip snap back and forth going between Ludwig and Jordan Spieth. I was watching Valero Ludwig was killing it was leading for a and I was literally thinking dang it I wish I had given Matt the chance to change so I can choose Ludwig for the Masters on one and done's and then ⁓ the classic He just choked it again. I don't know what's happening with him. I think we can maybe talk about that with Matt and see what he thinks, but I don't know. I think now I'm happy that he has him for his one and done. Maybe we can do a little bit better.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I still would pick Ludwig if Matt hadn't. I think he's gonna do very well at the Masters. I think he's in a good spot. you know, Matt's one and done picks. He has clearly set up people to miss the cut. So sorry, Ludwig. It'll be a short week for you,
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, hey, we don't make the rules. So in response to the Valera Open, Matt said that the tournament is going to get the axe from Brian Rolap. And we asked for a follow up. Don't really understand what he meant because he said there's no juice. There's no genocide. And we looked up the meaning and we're still kind of confused at what he meant. So maybe. I mean.
Kevin Spisak: have absolutely no clue what he means.
Dominic Colangelo: You don't really need too big of a show the week before the Masters. It's quite a buildup to it. It's a massive tournament and then it's the perfect tournament after doing Harbor Town. So like it's really, I don't think you need too too much in this tournament.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: So next ⁓ text, JJ from the dead, question mark, and Chandler Phillips finally playing well, which again, going back to his one and done's, he has been so bad, ⁓ but he's just choosing these guys way too early.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, ⁓ he picked Chandler Phillips way too early. I picked Robert McIntyre too early. This would have a great week to have him. Maverick McNeely finally came through for me though ⁓ and was like my only good pick and you know, just happened. when I picked him very quickly on the episode that I wasn't able to record.
Dominic Colangelo: that's it for Matt's text, Matt's input. We're with him. ⁓ Huge news. ⁓ Phil Mickelson is officially not playing at Augusta.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I said he's got a personal family health matter. So Phil's kind of been in a weird spot with, you know, playing in the majors, you know, ever since his live Saudi comments. I was kind of looking forward to seeing him play at the Masters again, just, you know, for the fun of it. But he's been in a just strange position. Hopefully everything's okay with his family, whatever's going on.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, I'm not really sure. ⁓ Like you said, I he's doing okay because he's being very private about it and he's normally not that private of a person, so it must be pretty serious. But yeah, just hoping everything's good with him. I wanted to throw in some fun facts about Augusta, even though doing a preview separately. I wanted to show some of the players that recently qualified through tournaments and their good play. So Gary Woodland obviously winning the Texas Children Houston Open two weeks ago. He gained his master spot with that win, which is awesome. That'll be fun to see how he does. we, Matt and I kind of touched on it where maybe he kind of frees up a little bit, know, less anxiety on the mind. So that could be pretty fun to watch. Nikolaj Hosgard definitely didn't pronounce that right. Sorry, German, Norway listeners, whichever he's from. He clinched a spot in the top 50 of the world ranking after his finish in Houston and he moved up to 36 there. Daniel Berger, he was also pretty high up in the Houston Open so he kind of secured a spot. I think he's 38 now. And then Jake Knapp, gotta love seeing Jake Knapp's tempo town in Augusta. So that'll be fun to see as well. Again, that was at the Houston, oh yeah, for sure.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ yeah. It's gonna be hitting bombs.
Dominic Colangelo: And that was at the Houston Open. All these guys are kind of at Houston Open just because they didn't play at the Valero. Matt McCarty as well, he snuck in. He's at like 46, 48, something like that. then, of course...
Kevin Spisak: It's my lefty bro. Ha!
Dominic Colangelo: I don't know why that sounds so funny. No, I'm keeping the- my lefty bro! I'm leaving the-
Kevin Spisak: You might need this. He is. Matt McCarty's my boy. My lefty brethren.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ yeah, he is. JJ of course winning this recent tournament. He got his spot in there so good for him. It brings a total of the 91 players. Everything is locked in so that'll be fun. go for it.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha. here's question about those qualifiers. If you were in the top 50, like ⁓ in situations, someone, ⁓ whoever McCarty bumped out, did they lose their spot in the Masters ⁓ or they just get an additional?
Dominic Colangelo: I'm curious on that too because the rule is top 50 and then if you win certain tournaments you get an automatic bid or an invitation I mean. So it's gotta just be that number 50 going to 51. It's gotta just be the one person I'm assuming because Jake Knapp, Daniel Berger, McCarty, they didn't play in the Valero if I remember correctly but I'm curious can you just not play Valero that way you secure that spot and you don't lose any points?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: I'm interested to see how that goes. Because I don't really know.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.
Dominic Colangelo: So speaking of Augusta, I was watching a little bit of the ANWA, the Augusta National Women's Amateur, and it was electric. So Asterix Talley, that is a person's name. She is an incredible golfer. She was the heavy favorite, and especially going into that final round, I think her biggest lead was three or four strokes. And then I want to say it was 15.
Kevin Spisak: What a name.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ no, it was 12. That par three, whichever hole it was, she hits in the bunker ⁓ and she has a tight lie. She was saying the bunker was kind of tough where she couldn't get enough spin on it, rolled in the water. she had two options ⁓ because of where it rolled out. could go back in the bunker and replay or across the pond and then chip back onto the green. She chose bunker again, she was a little confident.
Kevin Spisak: So.
Dominic Colangelo: gets into the water again, ends up with a quad bogey on this par three, and then that immediately shoots Maria Jose Marin into first place, and then she was just awesome throughout the last back few holes of this course, but ⁓ Maria Jose Marin, first Colombian to win the women's amateur, and... It was super heartwarming. Her whole family was there. ⁓ I definitely need to watch that tournament way more often.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, it is an electric tournament. think this was their seventh year having it. Ever since I started it, it's been like primetime TV. You know, it's like ⁓ of the few amateur tournaments that I like keep tabs on men or women. know, anytime you get to see rounds at Augusta, you know, it's a blessing, but. I was amazed at how young some of these golfers actually are. There were so many people in the top five or top 10 who were younger than 20 years old. I know a lot of them are college golfers. or younger. Asterix Talley, isn't she 17? She's committed to Stanford, but she's not even in college?
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's insane.
Kevin Spisak: And this is like the third time she's played in this or fourth time she's played in this. This is unreal, like how good some of these young golfers are.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, it's bonkers. ⁓ And there's a men's version of the amateur here, right? Because isn't that what Bryson won way back when?
Kevin Spisak: Good question. don't know it. I thought the Masters and the Women's Amateur were the only ones at Augusta.
Dominic Colangelo: I thought but I could have swear I saw something with Bryson when I was looking him up, but I could be dead wrong But still not to take attention away from them ⁓ Incredible tournament the there's a little bit of drama surrounding it too because so many people to kind of bypass the Masters merch tent Instead of going to the Masters tournament and waiting for the lottery they found a way to get to the women's amateur and they cleaned house like there's people with bags on bags on bags like trying to max out what they can buy and
Kevin Spisak: Right, yeah, I don't know.
Dominic Colangelo: I don't hate the hustle of it. I just think it's weird. Why wouldn't you sell women's amateur merch? It's a really cool logo and cool stuff. like, you know, like people are still spending money regardless, but throw in some amateur merch.
Kevin Spisak: I think the Masters is a bit unique because the like tournament logo like in the Augusta National logo would be the same, right? You know where most. So there's like the Butler Cabin logo that's like the reverse colors, ⁓ ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: It's a little bit different.
Kevin Spisak: say you to ⁓ the Charles Schwab Invitational, you can buy with the Colonial logo or you can buy product with Charles Schwab Invitational logo. feel like the Masters is unique where the logo is the same.
Dominic Colangelo: That's a great point actually. I'll concede there, because they're buying it for the course that they're playing at, not necessarily the tournament they're watching.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Right, right. Like you would have, could have some women's amateur specific like merch, but if you're buying like merch just for the course, like, like when I went to the Charles Schwab, I wanted a colonial hat, you know, like that would look like a master's hat.
Dominic Colangelo: and you're wearing a TPC San Antonio hat, not a Valero Texas open hat.
Kevin Spisak: Yep, 100%. Yep.
Dominic Colangelo: Okay, yeah, I'm happy to do that.
Kevin Spisak: That the women's amateur logo is sick with like the azalea with the flag on the inside. It's a very creative logo.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I would really like that. think that kind of wraps up our Under the Covers with JJ Spahn, our ⁓ and then a little bit of news. I think it's time for some trivia. What do you got for us, Kev?
Kevin Spisak: It is you try to ruin my trivia question earlier when you were asking probing questions about JJ Spahn's putter. But the the trivia question is. In the lab, DF 3 or DF 2 or DF the original. What does DF stand for?
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ boy. ⁓ gosh.
Kevin Spisak: So JJ spawns winning putter at the Valero Texas Open. It's the Lab DF3. What does DF stand for?
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ boy. I wonder if I'm thinking like F has to be face. But lab is kind of interesting. Because I wonder is DF the shape? Is that what it's supposed to be? ⁓ boy.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, if Matt was here, he would 100 % know it, but thought this would be a coin flip for you if you had seen it or not.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, he's a lab guy. Yeah. Okay. Diamond face?
Kevin Spisak: Nope. I give you, it is not. It's force.
Dominic Colangelo: Was his face the F? ⁓ that's even worse. Direct force?
Kevin Spisak: Give you one more try with that.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ directional force
Kevin Spisak: basically, yeah, directed force.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ okay. mean, yeah, I'm not, definitely not getting up. I won't take the W, but shoot.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I would give you an incorrect grade on that one, but you close. You got your way there.
Dominic Colangelo: That's close enough. All right.
Kevin Spisak: Yep.
Dominic Colangelo: Can I do a chug or can I sip gingerly?
Kevin Spisak: I know, I think the rules are pretty clear. It's a beer chug.
Dominic Colangelo: All right. ⁓ So that's unfortunate. Dang it. I can't believe I don't know. I really need to look up some more lab stuff because the technology is very cool. I just it's one of those where I know I'm not going to pay that much money for a lab. So I don't even look into it. But, you know, if you're trying to have a golf podcast, you should maybe look up it up.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ Uh-huh. Yeah, I would be very interested to know if you liked it or not because you've had a Spider, you've had the Odyssey 7, you've had your, you know, Ping Blade, Broomstick, like you've played a lot of different things. I would be very interested to know what you would think of like the DF3. I could see you like absolutely loving it and you feeling like it's like the greatest putter on earth or I could see You being like, yeah, it's not for me.
Dominic Colangelo: I also need to throw in my Ping Karsten answer to Copperhead ⁓ putter. And I hope that this outreach is I was playing at a course down in Houston, Texas. we're walking up to this green ⁓ and ⁓ I'm, ⁓ you know, I fan my ⁓ shot right I'm in the rough. And I'm going to get my ball and currently ⁓ in this bag that I have it is ⁓ a, of the copper headed irons that were hand from my grandpa down to my brother. ⁓ down to my other brother, down to me. Copper headed clubs are awesome. And then I look in the rough and there's literally just the exact matching Karsten copper putter. And I'm just like, did anybody leave this? Like that's 60 yards from the green. So we're thinking maybe not 60, cause we think somebody literally just got mad and threw it into the rough. So then I went up to the pro shop, nobody came back for it. So then I just kept it and it's incredible.
Kevin Spisak: Nice, yeah, that's pretty fun. That's a classic.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah. Yeah, the... would say Spider's my favorite performing because I'm doing very well with it. And then Nostalgia was my grandpa's very long-faced ping. belly putter that I used, the broomstick. But then ⁓ favorite sound was definitely that copperhead ping. Because it literally, that's where it gets the name is ping because it's incredible. So I wish I can kind of mix all those together and then just make one perfect putter. That'd be sick.
Kevin Spisak: Right. Yeah, you probably could. was thinking when you were talking about like, maybe like trying something new a couple of weeks ago, I would love like 100 % if you could play Tony Fino's new putter. It's like the onset, I guess the Alley, I forget the full name of it, but Ping's brand new onset putter and that's what I was talking. It's like center shafted and it's onset so. The face is in front of the shaft by a little bit, but it's not fully zero torque or where the shaft is leaning like the lab. And then the theory there is that you're dragging the CG right behind the shaft axis. ⁓ I could see you loving that in your boys with Tony Fino.
Dominic Colangelo: Heck yeah, Tony. No, I really want to because whenever I putt sometimes, I'll look at a video and somehow I just like lift my putter kind of early. So I wonder if that kind of helps where it just helps me keep that consistent contact lower down. So I'll have to try that out whenever I go down to St. Louis again. But I think it's time for our one and done's from last week. I don't even need to tell you, but just know that Matt's player missed the cut. It's just kind of, it's guaranteed at this point, he chose Tom Kim, which that had to have been a joke. There's no way he seriously thought Tom Kim was going to be well, but he ended up at a placement of 88. I chose Adrian Dumondesar. I'm going to keep saying that name because I can pronounce it correctly. He was T49.
Kevin Spisak: Hehe.
Dominic Colangelo: Solid right in middle of the pack and then Kevin with maverick mcneely at a 21? But yeah, that's going to bring our totals. Matt is currently at 475, which you don't need to know everything that he's picked. Just know that it's a very high number for what we're doing. Kevin is at 271, which is more way better and more normal. And then I'm at a 168 because I'm trying to talk myself up because I feel like I'm doing very well and it's not going to last. So I'm taking as much as I can.
Kevin Spisak: So I'm still over 100 behind you.
Dominic Colangelo: Yep, just over a hundred and three. Like I said, it just takes two, maybe even just one bad one. And then you're right there. You know what I mean? So I'm talking mess as much as I possibly can.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ jeez. That's crazy. Yeah, well, yeah, and for our Masters picks, said majors count double. So if your pick misses the cut, that could be a big old swing.
Dominic Colangelo: I did forget about that and I should have remembered before saying that, but ⁓ that's actually a great segue because we're gonna go through our one and done's. Like we said, Matt is not here, but the past few episodes we've been talking about how he is locked in for Ludwig as his one and done. And it's. He's always been in last place, so he always gets first pick. So I think we both kind of wanted Ludwig to be chosen. But that's kind of the rules, is the person who's farthest behind gets to choose first. So Matt is locked in there. Who do you have for your one and done for the Masters?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, my one and done I'm nervous about but he's one of my favorite players I just like want to pick him just because I want to pick him and I want him to win, but I don't think he will but I'm gonna go with a ping boy Victor Hovland
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ I love it. I actually love it
Kevin Spisak: It would be so awesome if he won the Masters. I would really have a good time watching that.
Dominic Colangelo: He is fun to watch, ⁓ It's definitely like a... ⁓ It's a feelings pick.
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: Like we just want it to happen. It's something that's fun to root for. So I'm definitely a fan of it. I'm also a fan.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I give it similar vibes to when Adam Scott won the Masters. It seemed like everyone on Earth wanted him to win. That's how I feel about Hovland right now.
Dominic Colangelo: Same as like Rory last year. I don't think there's like old heads that for some reason don't like him because he's complaining or whatever in the last few years, but it's like, you cannot hate Rory. Like that's an awesome win. So same thing with Victor. I'm a fan of that. I'm also a fan that you didn't choose who I was going to pick because I really didn't have a backup. I'm going to go with Xander Shafly. He's been killing it lately. He's always kind of there, especially with majors and
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Yeah. It's a good pick. Mm-hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: This is a crazy stat that I didn't realize until I was looking into it a little bit. In five of his last seven Masters appearances, he's been in the top 10.
Kevin Spisak: Wow.
Dominic Colangelo: Unreal stat and one of those he was T17 so still up there. And then the other one he got, he didn't make the cut, but that was like, it was 22. So it was the first year after COVID kind of hit. So everyone's there for the first time in a while. So I'm just kind of throwing that out. I don't need that one. Five out of seven masters top 10 is crazy.
Kevin Spisak: Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, I could easily see him winning for sure. That's a good pick. ⁓ I feel like for like spectating purposes, Shafli is like pretty boring to watch, but he's like electric when it comes to like his actual ability.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I remember the PGA championship he won when he was going against Bryson there they had the hot mic with him and his caddy and they were talking about this approach shot and It was a very tucked green or tuck pin right over this bunker and his pat his caddy's like yeah you know, it's it's once 107 to the pin and to cover the bunker you got 102 and then Xander's like What are you thinking, like a 104? And the caddy's like, maybe like a 105. And they're going through yard by yard where they should land it. And when you're listening to it, it was one of the first times they did a hot mic, I believe, because you're just sitting there like, get real. There's no way that you can actually put it there. And then sure enough, he lands it exactly at 104 and then it rolls to two feet right by the pin. It was bonkers.
Kevin Spisak: That's amazing.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, so let's, I'm excited. think we all have some fun people to root for. So no one's gonna be mad or whatever watching these leaderboards, but I think it's gonna be a sweet week.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, for sure. I'm a little surprised that we didn't have a Scottie Scheffler pick that kind of seems like the standard go-to, but you know, we're saving him for later.
Dominic Colangelo: He is playing, that is locked in. You he just had a kid recently, so I think that's kind of, he's not playing well, has a family on the way, kind of want to reset and gather before you hit the Masters up, so he took a few weeks off, but excited to see him back. I hope he does well, I hope we're wrong. I think for one and done's, I think we're just waiting to see the old Scotty, I mean, the old Scotty, last year Scotty. See him again and then we'll probably choose him.
Kevin Spisak: Yep, 100%. He's going to have that fresh baby dad strength. So maybe he will just go out and tear it up again.
Dominic Colangelo: so. Alright, well think that's it. You got anything else for us, Kevin?
Kevin Spisak: I don't think so. Go Guardians big series win over the Cubs.
Dominic Colangelo: Beautiful. Go Guardians. I did see that. That's huge. ⁓ So like we said before, we have another separate episode. It's going to be a master's preview, potentially a live on the field, boots on the ground with Matt being there on Monday. So that's going to be very fun. Go see our draft that we kind of put together ourselves. Go follow us on our socials, Spotify, Apple, YouTube at under the covers golf. a little bit on Twitter at under the covers G because it's too long but super excited. It's one of the best weeks in golf. It's gonna be so much fun. I can't wait. See you next week.